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		<dc:creator>Margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea.  I&#039;ve talked with people who like things loud and people who like things quiet and even a police officer or two and almost all thought it might be a good idea.  Maybe we could have something I&#039;ll call compatible housing.  Have apt. complexes that cater just to those who like lots of sound around at all times.  It would no longer make them a criminal type for their personal preferences and keep it quiet for those who prefer that.  It would have to be voted in as a law or the existing laws changed to allow for it.  It would have to be zoned in an area where it would not disturb any other dwellings.  As far as who would manage the complex, why not have the managers that have blamed the person reporting noise rather than the person making it, in their current complexes.  Obviously, they have no problem with noise and side with the louder tenants, so they would be a natural.  Anyone who has gotten a notice like that from a manager when they complained about noise, keep it for nomination purposes.  It would stop the battle, help the health of those who need sleep and need to get up early to keep their jobs, and free up police officers to deal with crime.  If you like it, contact your local legislators and let them know.  I saw a survey about who would like stronger laws against noise.  Only 15% didn&#039;t want strong laws and a whopping 85% wanted the noise to stop.  So if that is indicative of who prefers what in general.  only  15% of tenants are making it difficult for 85% of the other tenants, because their preference just happens to blot out the preference of the majority.  Why not make a few complexes for them and let them have it.  It&#039;s too much effort in my mind to keep watch on them every minute so that they will obey the existing laws.  I think that effort could be spent on other problems that need attention.  And while we&#039;re trying to make them obey, people&#039;s health and possible hearing is being damaged in the long process of getting it to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea.  I&#8217;ve talked with people who like things loud and people who like things quiet and even a police officer or two and almost all thought it might be a good idea.  Maybe we could have something I&#8217;ll call compatible housing.  Have apt. complexes that cater just to those who like lots of sound around at all times.  It would no longer make them a criminal type for their personal preferences and keep it quiet for those who prefer that.  It would have to be voted in as a law or the existing laws changed to allow for it.  It would have to be zoned in an area where it would not disturb any other dwellings.  As far as who would manage the complex, why not have the managers that have blamed the person reporting noise rather than the person making it, in their current complexes.  Obviously, they have no problem with noise and side with the louder tenants, so they would be a natural.  Anyone who has gotten a notice like that from a manager when they complained about noise, keep it for nomination purposes.  It would stop the battle, help the health of those who need sleep and need to get up early to keep their jobs, and free up police officers to deal with crime.  If you like it, contact your local legislators and let them know.  I saw a survey about who would like stronger laws against noise.  Only 15% didn&#8217;t want strong laws and a whopping 85% wanted the noise to stop.  So if that is indicative of who prefers what in general.  only  15% of tenants are making it difficult for 85% of the other tenants, because their preference just happens to blot out the preference of the majority.  Why not make a few complexes for them and let them have it.  It&#8217;s too much effort in my mind to keep watch on them every minute so that they will obey the existing laws.  I think that effort could be spent on other problems that need attention.  And while we&#8217;re trying to make them obey, people&#8217;s health and possible hearing is being damaged in the long process of getting it to stop.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well your suggestions are great. However, we live in an downstairs apartment with 3 kids under 7 upstairs. They run, jump, pound constantly. There is a profound difference when they are here and when they are gone. Once they get out of the car, hell breaks loose. Once the father made a comment that he was sorry because he is sure they make noise. We talked to the office of our apt and they said they would talk to them but if it continues to write a letter to the main office. It got quiet for about a month until it all started again. I have a child and from what I hear what they are doing, there would be no way my child would even think of making that much ruckus. I keep praying that since it is a 2 bedroom apartment and there are 2 boys and 1 girl, they will have to move since in my opinion 2 boys shouldn&#039;t be sleeping with a girl after a certain age. I actually saw one of the boys peeing on the tree in the parking lot. They&#039;re very undisciplined.

So, all of your suggestions are nice but I don&#039;t think its going to help here. BTW I have 20 pages of notes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well your suggestions are great. However, we live in an downstairs apartment with 3 kids under 7 upstairs. They run, jump, pound constantly. There is a profound difference when they are here and when they are gone. Once they get out of the car, hell breaks loose. Once the father made a comment that he was sorry because he is sure they make noise. We talked to the office of our apt and they said they would talk to them but if it continues to write a letter to the main office. It got quiet for about a month until it all started again. I have a child and from what I hear what they are doing, there would be no way my child would even think of making that much ruckus. I keep praying that since it is a 2 bedroom apartment and there are 2 boys and 1 girl, they will have to move since in my opinion 2 boys shouldn&#8217;t be sleeping with a girl after a certain age. I actually saw one of the boys peeing on the tree in the parking lot. They&#8217;re very undisciplined.</p>
<p>So, all of your suggestions are nice but I don&#8217;t think its going to help here. BTW I have 20 pages of notes&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Social Landlord Wirral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in a student house for a year next to noisy neighbours (aspiring DJs) and after numerous complaints to the estate agency who assured me they were passing the complaints on to the landlord of the property next door nothing happend. we eventually found out our landlord owned the neighbouring house and we asked him personally to get them to keep quiet, when he requested, they denied then he realised 2 of the 5 tennants were not paying him rent and were in fact subletting from the others. Neighbours evicted, nice and quiet, replaced with an &#039;aspiring&#039; indie band..... Hmpft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in a student house for a year next to noisy neighbours (aspiring DJs) and after numerous complaints to the estate agency who assured me they were passing the complaints on to the landlord of the property next door nothing happend. we eventually found out our landlord owned the neighbouring house and we asked him personally to get them to keep quiet, when he requested, they denied then he realised 2 of the 5 tennants were not paying him rent and were in fact subletting from the others. Neighbours evicted, nice and quiet, replaced with an &#8216;aspiring&#8217; indie band&#8230;.. Hmpft</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Steckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are right on.  Most of this stuff is based on common sense.
It&#039;s incredible how difficult it is for some people to get along with their neighbors.

My suggestion would be to call the police if the incident occurs after hours.  And as you probably already know, most of these cases take place after the sun has already set.  

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are right on.  Most of this stuff is based on common sense.<br />
It&#8217;s incredible how difficult it is for some people to get along with their neighbors.</p>
<p>My suggestion would be to call the police if the incident occurs after hours.  And as you probably already know, most of these cases take place after the sun has already set.  </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lazero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one issue with one thing that was said: always try to be friendly? I think that advice is taking things to another extreme actually. Why would I send a positive message to somone who is either clueless about what they&#039;re doing to effect others or they don&#039;t give a hoot or they are downright mean. And how would you actually be able to tell if they are really that stupid to not have awareness that they are  making some ridiculous amount of noise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one issue with one thing that was said: always try to be friendly? I think that advice is taking things to another extreme actually. Why would I send a positive message to somone who is either clueless about what they&#8217;re doing to effect others or they don&#8217;t give a hoot or they are downright mean. And how would you actually be able to tell if they are really that stupid to not have awareness that they are  making some ridiculous amount of noise?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Stressed!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The co-op above mine was bought and a woman moved in during 4/09. Sounds of walking, dragging, etc. are so much to the point that the vibrations have knocked items off of their place in my apt (I&#039;ve been renting my co-op directly from the bldg mngrs for 12 years.) In 5/09 I sent a letter to the building managers and I spoke to the Super who spoke to the woman. My super told me she was rude to him. In early June I spoke to her-nonconfrontationally-and she was rude to me. I made numerous calls to the building managers and was ignored. I hired a lawyer and his letters to the building managers (requesting carpeting) also were ignored. In 9/09, I started to withhold rent and finally got their attention.  We&#039;re going to court.  The woman is Pres of the Co-op board AND in her FB page she is advertising my apt for sale (she works in real estate) and admits to trying to kick me out and replace me. I have acoustical recordings to present in court along with her FB page.  What are my chances?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The co-op above mine was bought and a woman moved in during 4/09. Sounds of walking, dragging, etc. are so much to the point that the vibrations have knocked items off of their place in my apt (I&#8217;ve been renting my co-op directly from the bldg mngrs for 12 years.) In 5/09 I sent a letter to the building managers and I spoke to the Super who spoke to the woman. My super told me she was rude to him. In early June I spoke to her-nonconfrontationally-and she was rude to me. I made numerous calls to the building managers and was ignored. I hired a lawyer and his letters to the building managers (requesting carpeting) also were ignored. In 9/09, I started to withhold rent and finally got their attention.  We&#8217;re going to court.  The woman is Pres of the Co-op board AND in her FB page she is advertising my apt for sale (she works in real estate) and admits to trying to kick me out and replace me. I have acoustical recordings to present in court along with her FB page.  What are my chances?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Hamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your post. It is easy-to-read and it is worthwhile. My personal experience has been as a tenant, but I do recognize the position of the landlord. If you would like to share success stories of dealing with noisy tenants, I would be interested in linking to them. Please feel welcome to visit my blog, These Noisy Times in America, at http://thesenoisytimes.blogspot.com/. Thanks again for your post and have a good day. Regards, Todd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your post. It is easy-to-read and it is worthwhile. My personal experience has been as a tenant, but I do recognize the position of the landlord. If you would like to share success stories of dealing with noisy tenants, I would be interested in linking to them. Please feel welcome to visit my blog, These Noisy Times in America, at <a href="http://thesenoisytimes.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thesenoisytimes.blogspot.com/</a>. Thanks again for your post and have a good day. Regards, Todd.</p>
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		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your site through this week&#039;s CoRE - just wanted to say that this is a great post!! A nice little note to your neighbours might work too. I did this when I was a student with loud people above me. I don&#039;t think they realized how much sound traveled through the building. Once I left them a nice note explaining that I didn&#039;t think they wanted me to know about the fight they had about who paid for more bills things were much quieter. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your site through this week&#8217;s CoRE &#8211; just wanted to say that this is a great post!! A nice little note to your neighbours might work too. I did this when I was a student with loud people above me. I don&#8217;t think they realized how much sound traveled through the building. Once I left them a nice note explaining that I didn&#8217;t think they wanted me to know about the fight they had about who paid for more bills things were much quieter. <img src='http://www.landlordshmandlord.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Tuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good suggestions! I wrote a post awhile ago about my own personal nightmare of having a neighbor from hell. I keep getting quite a few comments from other people sharing their living hell. Enjoy:
http://www.zillow.com/blog/do-you-have-a-neighbor-from-hell/2007/03/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good suggestions! I wrote a post awhile ago about my own personal nightmare of having a neighbor from hell. I keep getting quite a few comments from other people sharing their living hell. Enjoy:<br />
<a href="http://www.zillow.com/blog/do-you-have-a-neighbor-from-hell/2007/03/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zillow.com/blog/do-you-have-a-neighbor-from-hell/2007/03/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Landlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it more often than not, in a situation like this where one neighbor can hear another we&#039;re either talking apartments, or other shared wall dwellings.  In the latter case, if it&#039;s not a run of the mill apartment complex, a lot of condo units and other housing developments like this are managed by associations who have noise rules anyways.  Bringing it to the association&#039;s attention can often result in a quick resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it more often than not, in a situation like this where one neighbor can hear another we&#8217;re either talking apartments, or other shared wall dwellings.  In the latter case, if it&#8217;s not a run of the mill apartment complex, a lot of condo units and other housing developments like this are managed by associations who have noise rules anyways.  Bringing it to the association&#8217;s attention can often result in a quick resolution.</p>
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